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Let me tell you something fellows. This is Stockton's big Liz. She is the dam to Butcherboy, Without Liz
and the renown Weldon Stockton there would be no Hooten's Butcherboy.

This is Fox's Crazy. He was crazy. You had to tease him with one hand and when he jumped at it, you had
to be fast handed enough to grab his collar with the other hand. He wanted to bite anything that moved. Onced you set
him in the pit if the other dog was there. He would concentrate on him. If you had to wait on the dog to get in the pit he
would be trying to bite you or your shoes or your pants anything he could see. No dog ever stayed with him. He could bite
and fight with the best. He was out of Forsythes Blackshine and a daughter to Forsythes Jeanie. Blackshine was later known
as Mayfield Nigger.
All this is history and not meant to encourage dogfighting. This happened in the early 60's. The laws are
different now, So please do not fight a dog unless you like jail. Please do not do this to a cat or you will also go
to jail. Years ago Earl Tudor told me how to rib up a dog and make him crazy to scratch. I used this method years ago. I
first found a building about the size of a pit. I placed a full size mattress in a corner on its side squared up
with the corner. Then I got a cat and a refrigerator. Peta, I no longer do this so settle down. You take the cat
and hang him by his either his hind legs or his front legs from the ceiling with a rope 18 inches off the floor. I placed
it about 18 inches in front of the mattress. I took the dog to the opposite corner and let him see the cat. He will
naturally go crazy to get the cat. I held him in the corner for two minutes letting him peek at the cat. Then I
wouldn't let him see it for a few seconds by placing my body between him and the cat. Then I would let him see it for
a few seconds. He will get crazier to see the cat. Then at the two minute mark I let him go. He Flew across and bust
that mattress and at the same time had the cat killing it. I took him off the cat and repeated this process several times
totaling 15 minutes. I took the dead cat and put it in the refrigerator to preserve for a few days. When it became broken
after a few days I skinned it and used two halves of the hide. I kept them in the refrigerator till they wouldn't hang on
the rope anymore. Then it was time for a new cat. This was probably the cruelest thing I have ever did in my life. I
had colon cancer several years ago. I think God was punishing me for all the dogs I fought and all the cats I killed.
Although I still don't care much for cats. All that life is in the past now. Don't do this there are laws in place that
will get you in prison. Earl Tudor was talking to me about bad signs in dogs. Lets just say a few. If a dog fights with her
tail between her legs. If a dog fights wagging her tail to fast. If a dog fights with he tail curled up over her back. If
she fights with hair standing up on her back. If she screams when she gets bit. If she turns while she is fighting. If she
drops holts. If she scratches slow. Earl said that he has had dogs with all those bad signs that were top game dogs. Yet in
some pitdogs it did indicate they were not game. He also said he had a bitch that fought with her tale between her legs,
hair standing up on her back and she scratched slow and dropped holts and turned regularly yet she fought long hard fights
and never did quit. So much for the signs.
I would like to tell the public. Most true dogmen don't grab up dogs off the street or out of people's yards
to bait pitbulls into fighting. If a pitbull is put on any dog other than the bulldog type. The other dog snaps at the
pitbull. This snapping can cause a pitbull to dodge or duck to get out of the way of the snapping to get thier holt. This
can create a bad habit of causing the pitbull to make bad moves. Then when in a real pitdog match the dogfight referee
will determine the moves as what is called a turn in the dogfight sport. These turns can turn into problems. Because when
a pitbull is scratching that has been fought into snapping dogs. If he gets the idea in his head that all dogs snap. He may
pause when scratching at the other dog for fear of being snapped in the face. This pause may get him counted out. Some pitbulls
get cur smart. That is when they pause for the snapping dog to turn away and then they grab him and hold the curdog
where the curdog can't snap them. That is what creates the pause in the scratching pitbull. Yet some pit bulls aren't affected
by snapping.
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This is Doyle Reddicks 4 time winner 'Tush' a daughter to My famous Little Alvin dog. Years ago people
used every trick in the book to win dogfights. Once when David Eubanks was fighting Greaser against a guy from Mississippi.
The man was on his knees spitting at Greaser. Eubanks came to me and said, what is he doing trying to spit on my dog. I got
to watching him he was spitting BB's at Greaser.He was spitting only when Greaser was on his side. I told David
look on that tarp (which was the flooring for the pit ) .There are BB's laying here and there. That man was trying to spit
BB's in Greasers ear only when he was on his side and the man could see the open ear. People use to put BBs in the opponents
dogs ears while he was being washed before a fight. There are all kinds of rubs that can be used on a dog that will stop the
other dog from biting or may even poison the other dog. Jimmy Jobe said Saddler used Alum to rub his dogs daily during the
keep to help them from being bit hard. Mayfield also mentioned using Alum himself. Earl Tudor told me he used fish
brime in the early days to rub dogs down with. He got the brime from a known dogman that worked in an area on the eastcoast where
fish were being processed. He claimed it kept them from being bit hard when rubbed into the dogs skin daily during the keep.
When the old eastcoast dogman died. His source of fish brime ceased and he said he didn't use it any longer. I've heard
stories about nicotine sulphate that are not necessarily true but sometime are true. People say there opponent used
it and their dog died. I saw a man use it, he put it all over his dog (I was with him at the time). I will not tell you who,
but he did it. His dog got whipped and the other dog didn't die. There was a well known dogman that used the sewing
needle trick. When he washed your dog he had a sewing needle sticking in the skin of the palm of his hand. A sewing
needle has to be used because it is tappered. While washing the dog he would take the needle out of his skin and push
it all the way into the intestine area of the dog. The dog would fight and his movement would make the needle go in deeper
as he rolled and twisted and so forth while he fought. That is why the needle was tappered. Eventially the dog would
quit or die from enternal the injury. Some people sharpened their dogs teeth. Making them pointed. So they will
slide in easier. Some sharpen the back side of the fangs. So they will slice better. Some use bitch urine. When a bitch is
in heat they collect the urine and rub it on there dog. Then they rub Vicks on their dogs's nose where he can't smell it.
You can tell when someone is using bitch urine because all the male dogs matched that day usually don't do
quiet as good . Washing the dog will not help. The reason I say that is. Some men use to put it on themselves around
the shoe area and put the shoe close to the opponent's dogs head when the dog is down in the pit. Some used
frog urine as a rub but that is pretty easy to see when the opponent's mouth lathered up. People use Azium and different
steroids during conditioning plus different type drugs to speed up the dog. Especially if he has a hard fighting dog which
will help him take out his opponent even faster. There are so many things to watch for and the new young crowd comes
up with something new everyday. Especially when big money is involved that makes people do anything to win.

This is a flash from the early days. These people do not fight dogs this day and time ,this was years ago.
Do not let this influence you to fight dogs unless you like jail. This is Jerry Beene on the left. On the right
is Mr. and Mrs. is Doyle Reddick. With the famous Peterbilt dog. Doyle got this dog from Mike and James Kelley.
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