Fox's Patterdale Terriers and dogfight History

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Page 1 The introduction and some Pitbull History
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Page 4, Famous Pitbull History
Page 5 ,Famous fighting dogs from the early days .
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This is History do not let any of this history enfluence you into fighting dogs unless you like prison. No one mentioned on this page still has or fights dogs. They fought dogs before any felony laws were past. 

This is History from the past. No one in the article now has or fights pitbull dogs. This is from the 1970's. This is Bennett Clayton and the famous Bolio. Who he owned and fought years ago. Bennett also is famous for owning and breeding some of the best dogs that ever lived in the early years out of his Eli Jr. dog. I consider Bennett a good friend and a good person. 

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This is Stinson and his famous Art dog. One of the greatest badest dogs of all times. I'd like some more Photos of more dogs of Stinson & Glover's. If I'm not mistaken Bennett said the dam was not the quality of bitch that the sire was of Art. Who happened to be Eli Jr.

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Let me tell you something fellows. This is Stockton's big Liz. She is the dam to Butcherboy, Without Liz and the renown Weldon Stockton there would be no Hooten's Butcherboy.

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This is Fox's Crazy. He was crazy. You had to tease him with one hand and when he jumped at it, you had to be fast handed enough to grab his collar with the other hand. He wanted to bite anything that moved. Onced you set him in the pit if the other dog was there. He would concentrate on him. If you had to wait on the dog to get in the pit he would be trying to bite you or your shoes or your pants anything he could see. No dog ever stayed with him. He could bite and fight with the best. He was out of Forsythes Blackshine and a daughter to Forsythes Jeanie. Blackshine was later known as Mayfield Nigger.

All this is history and not meant to encourage dogfighting. This happened in the early 60's. The laws are different now, So please do not fight a dog unless you like jail. Please do not do this to a cat or you will also go to jail. Years ago Earl Tudor told me how to rib up a dog and make him crazy to scratch. I used this method years ago. I first found a building about the size of a pit. I placed a full size mattress in a corner on its side squared up with the corner. Then I got a cat and a refrigerator. Peta, I no longer do this so settle down. You take the cat and hang him by his either his hind legs or his front legs from the ceiling with a rope 18 inches off the floor. I placed it about 18 inches in front of the mattress. I took the dog to the opposite corner and let him see the cat. He will naturally go crazy to get the cat. I held him in the corner for two minutes letting him peek at the cat. Then I wouldn't let him see it for a few seconds by placing my body between him and the cat. Then I would let him see it for a few seconds. He will get crazier to see the cat. Then at the two minute mark I let him go. He Flew across and bust that mattress and at the same time had the cat killing it. I took him off the cat and repeated this process several times totaling 15 minutes. I took the dead cat and put it in the refrigerator to preserve for a few days. When it became broken after a few days I skinned it and used two halves of the hide. I kept them in the refrigerator till they wouldn't hang on the rope anymore. Then it was time for a new cat. This was probably the cruelest thing I have ever did in my life. I had colon cancer several years ago. I think God was punishing me for all the dogs I fought and all the cats I killed. Although I still don't care much for cats. All that life is in the past now. Don't do this there are laws in place that will get you in prison. Earl Tudor was talking to me about bad signs in dogs. Lets just say a few. If a dog fights with her tail between her legs. If a dog fights wagging her tail to fast. If a dog fights with he tail curled up over her back. If she fights with hair standing up on her back. If she screams when she gets bit. If she turns while she is fighting. If she drops holts. If she scratches slow. Earl said that he has had dogs with all those bad signs that were top game dogs. Yet in some pitdogs it did indicate they were not game. He also said he had a bitch that fought with her tale between her legs, hair standing up on her back and she scratched slow and dropped holts and turned regularly yet she fought long hard fights and never did quit. So much for the signs.

I would like to tell the public. Most true dogmen don't grab up dogs off the street or out of people's yards to bait pitbulls into fighting. If a pitbull is put on any dog other than the bulldog type. The other dog snaps at the pitbull. This snapping can cause a pitbull to dodge or duck to get out of the way of the snapping to get thier holt. This can create a bad habit of causing the pitbull to make bad moves. Then when in a real pitdog match the dogfight referee will determine the moves as what is called a turn in the dogfight sport. These turns can turn into problems. Because when a pitbull is scratching that has been fought into snapping dogs. If he gets the idea in his head that all dogs snap. He may pause when scratching at the other dog for fear of being snapped in the face. This pause may get him counted out. Some pitbulls get cur smart. That is when they pause for the snapping dog to turn away and then they grab him and hold the curdog where the curdog can't snap them. That is what creates the pause in the scratching pitbull. Yet some pit bulls aren't affected by snapping.

 
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This is Doyle Reddicks 4 time winner 'Tush' a daughter to My famous Little Alvin dog. Years ago people used every trick in the book to win dogfights. Once when David Eubanks was fighting Greaser against a guy from Mississippi. The man was on his knees spitting at Greaser. Eubanks came to me and said, what is he doing trying to spit on my dog. I got to watching him he was spitting BB's at Greaser.He was spitting only when Greaser was on his side. I told David look on that tarp (which was the flooring for the pit ) .There are BB's laying here and there. That man was trying to spit BB's in Greasers ear only when he was on his side and the man could see the open ear. People use to put BBs in the opponents dogs ears while he was being washed before a fight. There are all kinds of rubs that can be used on a dog that will stop the other dog from biting or may even poison the other dog. Jimmy Jobe said Saddler used Alum to rub his dogs daily during the keep to help them from being bit hard. Mayfield also mentioned using Alum himself. Earl Tudor told me he used fish brime in the early days to rub dogs down with. He got the brime from a known dogman that worked in an area on the eastcoast where fish were being processed. He claimed it kept them from being bit hard when rubbed into the dogs skin daily during the keep. When  the old eastcoast dogman died. His source of fish brime ceased and he said he didn't use it any longer. I've heard stories about nicotine sulphate that are not necessarily true but sometime are true. People say there opponent  used it and their dog died. I saw a man use it, he put it all over his dog (I was with him at the time). I will not tell you who, but he did it. His dog got whipped and the other dog didn't die. There was a well known dogman that used the sewing needle trick. When he washed your dog he had a sewing needle sticking in the skin of the palm of his hand. A sewing needle has to be used because it is tappered. While washing the dog he would take the needle out of his skin and push it all the way into the intestine area of the dog. The dog would fight and his movement would make the needle go in deeper as he rolled and twisted and so forth while he fought. That is why the needle was tappered. Eventially the dog would quit or die from enternal the injury. Some people sharpened their dogs teeth. Making them pointed. So they will slide in easier. Some sharpen the back side of the fangs. So they will slice better. Some use bitch urine. When a bitch is in heat they collect the urine and rub it on there dog. Then they rub Vicks on their dogs's nose where he can't smell it. You can tell when someone is using bitch urine because all the male dogs matched that day usually don't do quiet as good . Washing the dog will not help. The reason I say that is. Some men use to put it on themselves around the shoe area and put the shoe close to the opponent's dogs head when the dog is down in the pit. Some used frog urine as a rub but that is pretty easy to see when the opponent's mouth lathered up. People use Azium and different steroids during conditioning plus different type drugs to speed up the dog. Especially if he has a hard fighting dog which will help him take out his opponent even faster. There are so many things to watch for and the new young crowd comes up with something new everyday. Especially when big money is involved that makes people do anything to win.

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This is a flash from the early days. These people do not fight dogs this day and time ,this was years ago. Do not let this influence you to fight dogs unless you like jail. This is Jerry Beene on the left. On the right is Mr. and Mrs. is Doyle Reddick. With the famous Peterbilt dog. Doyle got this dog from Mike and James Kelley.

Big Louie and the late Mayfield and Weldon Stockton.

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These two fine gentlemen are no longer involved in  the pitbull game. The one on the left is Weldon Stockton and the one on the right is Bennett Clayton. These men produced many a winner in the old days.

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The famous James Crenshaw and BlackJack

This is dogfight History and not intended to promote dogfighting. Please do not fight a dog unless you like jail. Big Louie was a famous fighting dog from the early days. He was a top bred dog. The late Don Mayfield on the left fought and conditioned the dog for Weldon Stockton, who is on the right. Don was one of the best conditioners of all times. I'm going to say one thing about Don that thought I'd always hold against him. I sent him money for two of his books. He sent me one. He said, I don't remember you paying for this one but I'm going to go ahead and take your word for it and and send it to you. It wasn't much of a book anyway but since he wrote it, I wanted it. Plus now I forgive him and hold no bad feelings now. Time has healed me. 'Who said dogmen were normal'.

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Don & Phillis Mayfield two nice people.
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A top dogman and his wife.

Mayfield 's PitGeneral.
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A very rough dog.

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This is the famous the late Ralph Greenwood and Oakie. He is no longer with us. Ralph was born April 26,1931. He died February 27, 1988. He was one of the best dogmen of his era. He was probably as good of a conditioner as Don Mayfield if not better. I watched him win several fights and conditioning won most of them for him against top men in the game. I watched him whip some Texas men's famous dog like patting for a dance. I liked Ralph and also consider him to be one of the best at breeding and conditioning good pitbulls. He had so many good battle dogs. I don't have space to mention all of them but believe me he stood above most the dogmen in that era in character and ability. We visited at some of the matches in the old days and he was very easy for me to like. I miss those days.

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This is Reddick's four time winner Pedro that I let him have in the early days. Years ago I had a friend his name was Hub. Hub was quiet a football star when he was young. He had clippings from the local paper from the 20's of where he was complimented by the local sports writer in his home town. Hud told me a real funny story one of best stories I ever heard. He said when he was 13 or 14 he played football and after the game he and a couple of his buddies went out by the stadium where a local 13 year old girl was going to show herself naked to the boys. None had ever seen a girl naked and in those days that wasn't uncommon. When they got around under the bleachers she took off her dress and underwear and they couldn't see her. It was already dark and there was no lighting in those days. He looked me in the eye and said Randy, We burned up two boxes of gopher matches looking at her. He said, That was probably one of the greatest memories of my childhood. If that don't make you grin nothing will..Years ago a dogfighter who also was a deputy from a small town told me a funny story. I had a second cousin that had a tavern. Right outside the tavern there was parking for people in the middle of the street. He was driving by and saw the lights on and feet sticking out the drivers door. When he got close enough to see. He found an older drunk man and a woman about 55 years old having sex in the front seat with the dome light on in the car because of the door being open. He got out and approached them. The woman had on a dress and it was pulled up the man had all his clothes on but had the fly open. He said he grabbed him by the belt on his backside and pulled him off the woman. The man didn't even look around he crawled right back upon it and proceed to do what he was doing to start with. He said he finally pulled him off and told him to zip up and go home. This time he got in the car and drove off. I've been told many a time any job worth starting is worth finsihing and I think he'd heard that before. 

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This is Fox's Sissy. She was a game little bitch out of Alvin and Bess. From the early days in the 70's. She is the Dam to Reddicks famous four time winner the little Pedro dog.