Fox's Patterdale Terriers and dogfight History

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Page 1 The introduction and some Pitbull History
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Page 4, Famous Pitbull History
Page 5 ,Famous fighting dogs from the early days .
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This is strictly history and please don't fight dogs unless you like jail.

This is Tudor;s Jeff.

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This is the famous Bob Neblett. Bob was born Robert Neblett in November 9,1895 and died June 1980.

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Left Myself then James Kelly and Weldon Stockton
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Three old men from the past that do not fight dogs anymore.

This picture is at the ADBA National dog show and weight pull. James Kelley is on the far right Weldon Stockton is standing next to him third from the right is and I'm on the far left. Not that we really like weight pulls or dog shows but we do like to look at the dogs and learn how they are bred. We also believe show people and weight pull people contribute to stopping banning of pitbulls.

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Above is George Gilman and Larry Warren and George's Clee bitch a 5 time winner from the past.Two top dogmen from long ago. Years ago at some dogfights in Oklahoma. George Gilman had a big tall texas friend that got in a disagreement with a young stocky Okie. He got the Okie down and bit his nose almost off. The Okie was Carl Beasley''s Nephew and a former highschool wrestler. The young Okie was screaming in severe pain. Some how he got loose and rolled the big texas guy over and was biting his nose and when they pulled them apart both their noses were hanging down to there mouths. The Beasley boy was screaming running at the crowed that had circled the fight trying to get someone to fight him. He was fired up and wanted more even though his nose was hanging half off.  I heard they both were taken to the hospital and their nose repaired. But who knows.

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This is Larry Warren from the old days and a dog we conditioned and handled for  'Fat George'.

Larry Warren and Myself used to help a man with his dogs. Larry Warren Worked them for him and I handle them in the matches. George was probably genetically from one of the highest IQ type bloodlines or family trees of anyone human with fighting dogs. His name was George Stage Hunsecker. Known in the dog crowd as fat George. George was a big heavy man and stout . His father 'Ralph Uriah Hunsecker' was a song writer for movies and Broadway plays. He wrote the song 'Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas', plus he had over 500 songs to his credit. Ralph his father went by the name Ralph Blane. Just type in Ralph Uriah Hunsecker in you search program and read all about him. George's mother was a college graduate and was named Emajoe Hunsecker and held a big position with a big oil company. George stayed at the Hunsecker home in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. The rest of the family was in New York  writing songs for Broadway plays so George guarded the home place. George kept his dogs at various other homes so no one would know about his hobby. I ran around like a blind dog in a meat market looking at all the expensive things that were accumulated in this fine home as George took me on the tour. Agnes Morehead was George's Godmother and Andy Williams was his Godfather. Their dining room housed a table about 35 feet long for guest. Various pictures of movie stars and singers and song writers were all over the walls.  The master bedroom had a 500 gallon bath that was marble with steps leading down into it. They had a water closet that had been imported and made no noise when flushed. I am a licensed Oklahoma Plumbing contractor and must have flushed that stool 20 times just trying to figure how it worked.  George played the piano and also knew music . He showed me on their piano that Willie Nelson only knew three cords. No matter what song of Willie's he played, his hands only had to change three times. He laughed and said his dad knew every cord and ever note known to man. His dad still would never make the money Willie made with his three cords. Yet his dad was extremely wealthy.  George was born November 5 ,1948 and died January 14, 2003. I will always remember him and I'm sure Larry Warren will to. He had several good winners including a half brother to my little Alvin dog that won several fights. I do not have a picture of George. If anyone has a picture of  George I'd like one. Please help.

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This is the late George Saddler and Bozo two great ones from the past. George was born May 11, 1899 and died December 1969.

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This is the famous Freddy Jones and Major. Freddy fought into Mayfields Pit general and picked his Reno dog up. He won with many a dog through out the USA. Does anyone have a better picture of Freddy or know when Freddy was born and died if so please e-mail me. Freddy was at Danny and Myself's match when I fought Alvin. He really complimented me on Alvin. I was pleased that a dogman of his caliber liked Alvin. Cecil Pond also complimented Alvin as well and he was a top dogman. He was the referee and was within inches of the fight and was impressed.

Years ago in the 1960's. I worked at Vance Air Force Base. While living at Enid I matched a dog in a nearby town. I had a friend named Frank Carver that lived there and also fought dogs back then. We were to meet at his house at 8 oclock in the morning and go to the match. I told two people that worked with me and he told two people that worked with him that had been wanting to go to a dogfight. We had told the people if they wanted to go to be at Franks house at 8 AM.  It was on an Easter Sunday. At 8 OClock in the morning the law showed up. They knocked on Franks door and ask for me. They ask me if we were fixing to have a dogfight.  I knew they had been informed by someone that I or Frank had told. I knew there was no use in denying it.  I told them , yes I was going to fight a dog but not in their county. They said if I did they would have us followed and have us arrested. I told them that I would not fight the dog and be a good citizen . Then they called Frank out to their car and put him through the same quiz. They had their Sunday best on and were fixing to go to church and out to Easter lunch I'm sure and they seem to be in a hurry. I always thought it was someone I worked with that had told them because they had called me out first. I learned something that day. I don't care who ask to go.I didn't tell anyone else not connected with the doggame about any fights. I'm sure Frank did the same thing.

Earl & Flo Tudor, Floyd Merriman and his wife.
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Someone emailed me this and I've forgotten who but thank you.

Floyd W. Merriman Japan prision Camp photo.
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Floyd went through hard times for our country.

Floyd W. Merriman an old pitbull man and friend of Earl Tudors from Victoria,Texas and later Iowa Park, Texas. He went to the army February 13,1941. He was in the 60 Coast Artillery Company M. Battery. He went directly to the Phillipine Islands. He was there until December 7,1941. In early 1942 he was at Bataan when it fell. He was in the famous Bataan death march. He said once. You havn't had it rough, Till you bend down and get a drink out of a water from A buffalo track and hurriedly get back up before you get stuck with a bayonet for breaking rank. He was held prisoner in Bilibid and Caranatuan. Then he was sent to Japan. He found this pictre above and smuggled it out under his shirt. Floyd was born April 20 1924 and he died January 6,1977. He is Buried in Highland Cemetary in Iowa Park, Texas. He drink a lot and had lots of fights when he was drunk but I might do worst than that. That is if I'd been through what he went through. He was a good dog man and had lots of good dogs. A dogman told me years ago. Floyd got in a fight with J.E. King. J.E. was a small man but a tough man. He couldn't stop J.E. and couldn't knock him out. So he tied him up with and extension cord. He then threw J.E. in the back of his pickup and hauled J.E.'s home and dumped J.E. out in his front yard and drove off. Hoping J. E. would sober up and settle down. J.E. King lived in Oklahoma for a while. J.E. got in a fight at Oklahoma cycle supply with Dennis Parker. Dennis was a big 260 pounder and a tough man. J.E. weighed 134 pounds soak and wet so to speak. Dennis had whipped lots of men but had trouble with J.E.'s moving and dancing and jabbing style but finally got him whipped. J.E. King got in a fight at a bar and got knocked off a balcony from the second floor. This left him handicapped. He could hardly walk and lost lots of his balance but managed to live. 

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Above is John Pritchard Colby Born June 15, 1875 and died in 1941 in Newbury, Essex Co. Massachusettes. His wife was Florence. He was the son to Joseph Lunt Colby and Nellie S. Jackson. The John P. Colby family had 8 children. John Pritchard Colby Jr., Joseph L. Colby, Marjorie E. Colby, Helen A. B. Colby, Florence Louise Colby, Louis B. Colby, Alexander F. Colby and Jackman R. Colby. He was one of  the men that started dogfighting in America by producing some of the best. John also put his dogs in the hands of some of the top dogfighters. In the 1960's and the 1970's some dogmen including Loposay crossed Colby and Lighter dogs and got many winners. This cross whipped man dogs from all bloodlines. I'm not sure of the Colby dogs of this era.

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Two of the men that help start it all the famous from left to right 'Bert Clouse and Bob Wallace'.

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The famous Joe Corvino and Sonny Sykes as a youngster. Two all time greats that are no longer with us. Joe was born Joseph Corvino in June 30, 1890 and died March 1,1963. Sonny who was named Anthony Sykes was born august 13-1941 died May 31-2001.

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The late famous Pete Sparks from Starke, Florida. Pete was born Peter Sparks February 21, 1901 and died June 17,1994. He was a old time carnival man that got into the pitbulls in a big way. He was a top breeder. He also published one of the early underground dogfighting magazines. He was a talented writer. I met Pete years ago at some dogfights in eastern Oklahoma and liked him real well. When I was young I wrote him and ask him about his bulldogs. He wrote me back and said I have no bulldogs. I only have American Pitbull Terriers, Staffordshire Bull terriers and Staffordshire terriers. He said why do you call your dogs bulldogs. I wrote him back and simply said, 'I call them as I see them'. He wrote me back and all he said in the letter was. 'Like the man that kissed the cow.' That was quiet humorous. I learned that he was a stickler for detail. He was intelligent. He was not a person of neatness. He lived for the moment and was unique in his own way. No matter what anyone tells you. He was a great contribution to the pitbull world.

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This is the late the great Edward L.(Sonny) Crenshaw known in the pitbull world as 'Ed' he was one of the all time great pitbull dog men from Carlsbad, New Mexico. He bred many a top pitbull dog in the 60 and 70's and even in the 80's. Ed was born July 5,1928 in Balmorhea,Texas. He was also famous for his birddogs. He died February,21, 07. He was married to his wife Pearl Ann Whitmore for 51 years until her death on June 12, 2006. He had three daughters Denese Smart, of Green River, Wyoming, Melinda Crenshaw of Carlsbad, New Mexico and Renee Muije of Rock Springs ,Wyoming. He had 6 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren. His name appears on many winning pitbulls pedigrees.

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From the past. I had to put this Bitch on my web. This is a ten time winning bitch and credited as a double Grandchampion. This record has been proven and is not someones Bull. She won with pure talent, Mouth and gameness. She is Allen's Tornado. The only proven double Grandchampion bitch in the world. She whipped bitches in short order all the way up to three hours and eighteen minutes against top competition.

David Tant and one of his famous pitdogs.
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A men that like to be in the limelight with his fighting dogs and is paying the consequences..

The famous Bert Sorrells.
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He was a good dog man in the early days.

This is Sorrell's Ch. Raisin Below.
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Sorrell's Johnny Walker Red
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A famous dog from the past.

Sorrel's famous Ch. Goober dog
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Sorrel's Gr. Ch. Hard Eyes
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Sorrel's Bull
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