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Page 3 Pitbull History
Page 4, Famous Pitbull History
Page 5 ,Famous fighting dogs from the early days .
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This is all History from the early days. Don't fight dogs or you will go to jail.

Some pitbull people have a little trouble setting down and reading. If you take time to read this. You may learn a lot about the pitbull world before felonie law were passed. If you find your name on this web and it offends you. Let me know and I may take it off here. I mean no harm. I am just telling you the way I remember things in the dogfight world as they happened. Sometimes some people don't like me telling about them and that is understandable. If you copy anything I have on here let me know. It is not alright to copy my stuff without asking. I am easy to get along with and I will usually say OK. This web tells all the cruel things that I and many others did in my past life when fighting dogs. Entering the dogfight world for me was like entering a Chthonic region. Let me get this up front. I am no longer a dogfighter. I quit when the felony laws were pass and had slowed up before they were passed. I was around 40 years old when I quit. I am now 65 in 2008 and am glad I quit. I'd like to tell how strange some dog people are. I bought an American Staffordshire terrier some years back. A lady in the Amstaff crowd found out about me owning an Amstaff and that I use to fight dogs. She printed all over the web. who I was and that the Amstaff in question was in serious danger. She made up all kind of stories trying to get me in trouble. Little did she know that no true dogfighter would ever fight an Amstaff. Yes, some of the Amstaff X pitbull crosses are good. Amstaffs are not usually game and are not worth wasting your money on them in a fight. Over 70 years ago when they became two different breeds of dogs. That means the amstaff was bred for 70 years without testing his gameness or ability. While the pitbull was bred for seventy years with most anything that could fight and had ability. That is why today when DNA breed testing of the pitbull is done. It shows very few bred like the amstaff. Matter of fact a good percent are altogether a different breed than what the original pitbull breeding was. Most show very little comparison to the amstaff genetically. Now A lady with humane society and Peta stickers all over her letters and her posting on the web. Has found out I have Patterdales and am a former pitbull dogfighter and she is making up stories about myself and many others and the Patterdale Terrier. I guess I will have to pay for my dogfight sins the rest of my life. Their will be people read about my death someday and say, 'Dogs sure will be better off now'. The good thing is that when God forgave me for this. It is like it never happened in his eyes. Someday hunting, fishing and rodeos will be banned and there will be many arrested from all walks of life for sneaking around and doing these things. Then these people will be known as bad people to. Killing an animal will carry the same penalties as killing a human in the future. When Peta and a good portion of the passive people of the good old USA get everyone lined out the way they desire. They will then start next on the cruelty to insects. A flyswatter or a mouse trap will get you charged with a felony.They will talk about those felonies like they do about Michael Vick. Please do not let anything you read on this web encourage you to fight dogs or you will go to jail. Your family and freedom is a far greater asset than any pitbull that can fight. If you think all these guys that fought dogs were squeaky clean and hero material. You don't know the half of what went on in those days in those people's life. Lots of them were known felons who had spent many a day behind bars. Some people were good people who ran with the bad people in the dogfight community and became bad themselves in time. Yet some were good people with a cruel habit that did no other crimes. I received a letter sometime back from a man in the pen. He was a former dogfighter. He said ,I'm not a bad person. I just made some bad decisions. Well in my opinion the decisions you make are what you are as a person. You then have to earn the trust of people after repenting for all these illigal things. It is real easy to let yourself start fighting dogs. First you buy a pitbull. Then someone challenges you to a dogfight. You do it just for fun. Then like drugs your hooked and you get more serious about it. I bet there are many things that are accepted by our society that God sees and thinks are much worst than dogfighting. I want to to leave this world with my history saying I'm A good Father and A good Grandfather. Rather than a famous pitbull dog fighter.Yet I got my share of fame in the dogfight game. Like I tell my grandkids in the valley of the blind the one eyed men are kings. I was one of those one eyed men. Back in the day. I took a good friend to a dogfight. He had never been and begged me to take him. He told me he had it all wrong in his mind. He said he was shocked that they didn't make a sound like growling or snapping. He had seen dubbed news reels of pitbulls making all kinds of noise. This sound was added to attract the news watchers attention and make them think agonizing cries were part of the fight.When the truth of the matter is. All you here is the swift movement and wrestling motion that is in the pit seldom is a sound made. First you place the weight of your dog with the pitbull fight crowd. Back in my dogfight days. Lets say you have a dog that you think will fight his best at 44 pounds. You tell the dogfight crowd. The dogs is open to match at 44 pounds. You also say whether it is a male or female. You might say you will fight him or her for a minimum of one thousand dollars to a maximum of $5000 dollars or what ever your heart desires to bet. $1000 to $5000 was about average in my day. Yet some dogfights by the drug crowd are up in the $50,000 range. This isn't the average bet and is a rare happening. Then both sides agree on a time set a couple of months in advance. Each side puts up around $200 to $1000 forfeit money. This is held by a trusted third party. Also their are several sets of rules dogfighters go by. These rules will be agreed on before the dogs are fought. This forfeit money is given to the opponent if the other man doesn't show up or his dog is over weight. That guarantees that a person doesn't work his or her dog for nothing. When they arrive the dogs are weighed and then each side washes the other sides dog. This helps get rid of any drug or poison that is put on the dog to stop the other dog from biting or fighting. There has also been a referee chosen in advance. The arena called a  pit made of wood. It is square with two foot high walls and dogs have a 14 foot scratchline more or less. The term scratch is when the handler turns his dog loose and he has to run that 14 feet across to the other dog and mouth him or bite him is what I perferred.  It is not really a so called pit. Because it stands two feet above ground level. At one time in the early days a pit may have been dug but not in my day. The dogs are brought to the pit after washing them and are held by the owners.With the dogs facing away from each other until the referee says face your dogs. Then the dogs are turned around and faced at each other and held till the referee says pit your dogs. The dogs fight till they make what is called a turn. They will occasionally turn their head away from the opponent. That is considered a sign of fear. Yet it doesn't always mean that. When this happens. The dogs are handled and taken to their corners. The dogs are held for an agreed amount of time facing away from the other dog. Then faced toward each other when the referee says face your dogs then the first dog that tuned usually will have to get to the other dog in 20 second or be counted out. Then they are handled evertime they come out of holt and taken to opposite corners and then the dog that had to go across last time stays and his opponent has to come to him or be counted out. If no dog turns his head away during the fight. The dogs fight till they lay out of holt for an agreed amount of time. When this happens the down dog has to scratch then they take turns. This keeps most dogs from getting killed or hurt bad. If one is hurt bad and can't go across or to tired or afraid to go across and is counted out. The fight is over. There are many different rules dogfighter go by. Cajun rules are the most popular when I was in the game. The different rule vary just a little. Very seldom is a dog permanently injured or a dog seldom gets killed like the media says in an officiated dogfight. I watch horse racing, boxing and football and can say. They have as many if not more perminent injuries plus many are killed. The main difference in dogfighting and other sports is that the main goal is to hurt or kill the opponent. I read on a ASPCA Web on their Dogfighting Faq page that dogmen cut their dogs tails and cut their ears short so they can fight better. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Anyone that fights dogs knows that a dog uses its tail for balance. So they leave their tails long. They also know that if their ears are long that is an advantage for a fighting dog. When a dog likes to fight a dogs ears. A long ear will stretch farther than a cut ear and the dog that is getting bit on the long ear can stretch and get a hold where he can't get a holt when a dogs is holding him tight on his short ear. A dog will always get deeper on a short ear because he is closer to the head. New Laws and big money rewards are in place to get you. One group is offering $5,000 reward two other groups are offering $10,000 each. So the total for turning someone in and getting A conviction is $25,000. Your so called best friend might turn you in for $25,000. So you better not try fighting dogs this day and time unless you like to be locked up. Oh I know your crowd is safe and you trust them. No wonder you still fight dogs 'your stupid'. Many a man has went to prison using trust as his keeper. 

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Fox's 2x winner Dude from the old days.

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Granddaughter to Black Widow Tudor gave me.

I will tell you people a little about myself. I Randy Fox was raise on a wheat,cotton and cattle farm and we also had horses. I've never been arrested except for drag racing when I was a boy. I have done my fair share of things that were questionable but have alway been a believer of Jesus Christ and am far from being perfect and backslide regularly.  When I was young. My parents both worked and we had a maid that cleaned house and took care of us kids. The first maid was Mrs. Banner Evans and the second was Ms. Evelyn Gray both were very fine women. Don't let this make you think I have money. I'm just a poor old retired Plumber. I will never have the finances my parents had. I have met people as I've walked through the pitbull world from all walks of life. All the way from killers to Preachers that fought pitbulls. I hope you don't judge me as being all that bad since I was a dogfighter. I bet you no matter what lifestyle you lead. You have done just as bad, if not worst in Gods eyes. Like the bible says. Let the man without sin throw the firsts stone. America is going to go broke putting people in prisons for small crimes like dogfighting but no one seems to see this coming. There will be more people in prison than out od prison someday.

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Above is another picture of Charley Adkisson a friend and his Brindle dog. This dog is a brother to Maloney's Slasher. This brindle male dog  is off Warren's old One eye. A dog Larry Warren got out of the pound. I know Maloney's Slasher doesn't show 'One Eye' on his pedigree 'oh well'. I can tell you Charley didn't have anything to do with that false paperwork.This one eyed dog whipped many a good bred dog. One was a son to Eli Jr.

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Above is Mr. James Kelley on the left. He is a good friend a retired school teacher and an oldtime dogfighter. On the right is his son. The late Mike Kelley who was a painter for the state with his son Tyler. Mike Kelley also was a dogfighter from the past in the old days and had some great dogs. Mike Kelley was born February 16, 1953 and died January 16 1998. Mike Kelley was good friends with the late Mike Peeler. ( I need a picture of Mike Peeler) Mike Peeler had some great pitdogs in his day. Peeler was from Okmulgee,Oklahoma. He was born January 18 1954 and died august 19,2002 

Fox's Ch. Rusty from the 1960's
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Rusty whipped Linville's Warrior and two dogs of Jim Williams'.

Years ago I lived in a little town at Drummond,Oklahoma. I had a big back yard full of dogs. An old man that lived two houses down from me had a big red butted monkey. He would come on my property and get in front of the dogs on chains and dance up and down and torment them. I went to the old mans home and ask him as nice as I could to please keep him up. I told him I had fears of a dog getting loose and I couldn't predict what would happen. I had heard stories of Monkeys killing dogs and that worried me to. The old man got real crazy and said if that monkey gets hurt by any of those pitbulls. He'd kill every dog I had. I turned and walked away. I didn't know how to handle stupidity. One day I drove in from work and started with my lunch bucket toward the door. when out of the corner of my eye I saw Sport coming around the corner of the house dragging that monkey as he came. He seemed to almost have a grin on his face.  I got him right quick and took him around back and put a new collar to replace his broke collar. I pushed the monkey under the porch that set up off the ground where no one could see the evidence. When it got dark I put the monkey in a feed sack and drove to the country and threw him in a deep ditch. I worked at Vance Air Force Base. When I went back to work I told the boys about that big happening. The next day the radio came on at work and the man was offering a hundred dollar reward for the monkeys return. The guys started teasing me. Saying, where did you throw him. I'll go get him and get my reward. The publicity scared me so that night in a snow blizzard I drove to the country and got him out of the ditch. I brought him back and cleaned him up the best I could and in the night sneaked over in the mans back yard and put him high up in a fork of the tree. The blizzard wiped out my tracks. The radio ads quit and everyone but the old man lived happily everafter. I have learned since then to use two collars with no snaps and I made my own extra heavy swivels. I used some 3/8 chain and some 1/2 chain. I quit using axels and went to bolting the chain through a cement block and burying it about 18 inches deep and never had any trouble again. I personally have learned how axels and snaps can cost you a dog. If you want to use them be foolish it is your loss. I gave heart worm preventive the first of each month and examined each chain at that time to. Also while living at that house. Mrs. Moore live next door to me and they had a 14 year old sheltie. I was walking Suzie a Dibo bred bitch and she jerked loose and ran after the sheltie. She was running so fast and hard. She ran over him and I jumped over him and caught her. When I looked back he was laying on his side dead.  I put her up. Mrs. Moore saw the whole deal. I told her I was sorry. She said it wouldn't be so bad but that was Bob's dog. Bob her husband was in a nursing home. I buried the dog for her and she said no more about it as long as I lived there. I guess the hard lick he took when she ran over him killed him. Who knows?

Years ago I think it was back in the 1970's. I attended some dogfights near the Texas,Oklahoma border. They had lots of matches scheduled. There was a long driveway to the chicken fighting barn where the fights were held. The man at the gate had a walkie talkie to warn people at the barn if the law came. The concession ran out of beer and sent the man with the walkie talkie to town to get more beer. That is when we got raided. There was a small 4' by 4' metal door about 16 feet up facing the west. The window was locked but people kicked it open and were diving off the bleachers through it from the inside of the barn to the outside. About 8 foot down was a metal roof that stuck out about 8 foot. As the law came in the front door. People dived through that door and landed with a bang and then rolled of that extended roof and landed another 8 foot to the ground. I could here them moan when they hit the ground. I was outside talking to Danny Burton. He was leaning on someone's car hood. An Oklahoma Highway patrolman stopped and stared real cold for a moment. Then he walked off. I told Danny he sure did look at your cold. He said, I thought he was looking at you. The Texas and Oklahoma lawmen couldn't tell who was in charge because the red river had moved and the border couldn't be determined.  So my group eased in our vehicles and left, Some went to a new sight and fought their dogs but we wanted no part of that. It was to risky for us.

Frank Carver and Frank's little Candy Bitch
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Frank Beat Jerry Beene with this bitch who was a daughter to my Ch. Rusty dog. This is in 1970's.

Franks little Candy bitch stopped the Bitch of Jerry Beene's standing on all fours in the corner in the late 60's or early 70's. She was a daughter to Maloney's Toot and an old time Colby bitch. Beene's Maloney bred bitch had a hard mouth but when it came down to it. She couldn't take the punishment. These two bitches both had good mouths and traded holts from front to back.This went on all the way through a hard fought battle. Like I said about Candy. She was out of my Ch. Rusty dog. Who was a Tudor's Dusky and Tacoma Jack bred male and my Suzie bitch. Suzie was a true Dibo bred dog. Who's papers were altered by  a famous dog man back in the day. Who told me he altered them. That way no one would know how Suzie's greatgrandparents were really bred. The old time dogman told me Suzie would have Dibo on her papers seven time. That is if she had been registered corrrectly 'but she wasn't'. I saw so much of that paper altering. I bet no dog is bred right if the truth was told about the true pedigrees. After all, there lots of different owners on one pedigree and  that increase the percentages of paper hanging.

My Grandad Yates in 1924 and a pitbull.
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Above is My Greatgrandmother Margaret Clarissa (Yates) Hayes born in 1867 in Tennessee and Her husband. Who also was My great grandfather William Rufus Hayes born in Tennessee in 1865 . Last but not least My Great,Great Grandfather Jessie Williams Yates born in 1844 either in Tennessee or North Carolina and his Pitbull. He is the father of Margaret. I found this old picture at one of my older cousins and didn't know who they were. She explained all these details to me. This is part of my natural fathers family that I wanted to get to know as an adult.

Fox'sYellow 2x winner from the 1970's.
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Charley Adkisson and Decordova's famous Bat dog.

This is Rachel my youngest daughter & Goober
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My Goober stopped a couple of good dogs back in the 1970's. He off Sorrells' Gator.

Years ago people fled from their home countriesto get away from dictatorships and special interest groups. These countries restricted their religious beliefs and many other things in their life they had been doing in their past. They came to america with a dream of true freedom.Yet today special interest groups are stopping many of those freedoms. It is strange to me how men can fight till one or both can't stand up. Yet laws are in place that stop dogs or chicken from fighting. It is considered cruel and is a felony. In some states it is unlawful for a dog or a horse to race. Plus in all states a horse can be only raced on a state sanction racetrack. A group is going state by state getting laws passed where you can't keep a dog on a chain. Yet lots of men have been in shackles. Pitbulls and many other breeds of dogs have been kept on chains for hundreds of years but all of a sudden it is bad. Have you ever given the thought to how much we are like the early Romans. They had men fighting to the death in their coliseums. We pit people in our coliseums against each other every time there is a football game. Yet that is fine. People have been paralyzed for life in the games. Every bone known to man has been broken one time or another during these games. Yet that is accepted and I love it. Many groups are trying to take our guns and stop our hunting. One group says they are going to start with California passing no hunting laws and go state by state still hunting is completely banned. I believe that people have so much cruelty in them and if they are completely stopped from hunting and all blood sports are stopped. Man will turn to cruelty to each other to fulfill their blood taste. That is what Peta does and the Humane society does. They hurt people if they can in the name of making all animals be treated like they wish. I heard a scientist say that each day an animal becomes extinct. Well, each day one of our freedoms become extinct as well. Here in the old U.S. of A.. Laws against carrying fighting chickens and fighting dogs across state lines have been passed. That law is getting innocent people arrested who carry their pitbulls and chickens across state lines and haven't ever fought a dog and aren't going to fight a dog. Under this law you are guilty for having the pitbull or chicken with you while cross a state line and you have to prove your not guilty. I don't believe that is true justice. Peta and the Humane society need to be stopped in their tracks. If our lawmakers keep passing new laws at the pace they are passed today. In the future 90% of the people will be in prison and 10% running free still making new laws and running our country.

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Above is the late Bill Decordovas. He was born William Decordovas on July 14,1899 and died July 1970.He was a nice quiet man a butcher by trade. I consider him a friend and will always remember him dearly. Many a famous dog has his name on the pedigree. Bill Lived in Mt. View Oklahoma a short distance from Jim Williams and Earl Tudor and seven miles from my hometown. While Bill was dieing in the hospital a well known dogman stole all his dogs. Earl Tudor went to his aid and got part of them back. He could do something through his training techniques that I didn't see any other dogman do. He could let several dogs of his eat together out of one pan. You might laugh but you are wrong thinking they were currs. One was the Tammy bitch he whipped Mayfield with, The other was Ribbon. A great female and pitddog who is on many famous dog's pedigrees today. I can see others in my minds eye he did that with through the years but can't think of their names. Who said pitbulls were crazy.

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Above is Maloney's Davis. His pedigree shows him off Toot and Colorado. Davis was a pretty good dog. He did lose once and got counted biting his tail walking in a circle. His mother Colorado was a currdog in my opinion. She came out of the corner in a match and took two or three steps and decided to turn around and go back to her master. When Colorado was in heat. Charley Adkisson and myself went out to Maloney's house. He had Colorado in with Rusty. Rusty was off Toot and a Bat and Ribbon female. They were hung up when we were there. The week before when we were out there she was in the Pen with Toot.  I think Toot was starting to lose interest in sex and Don covered his trail by making sure she got bred. Today people can find out whether you are doing this with DNA. Don and his friend W.H. told me they stole Toot from Diffenbach. At first Don had him registered out of Jeff but like a miracle he got a new sire 'Spike' later on in life. He could have easily been out of either dog. Diffenbach and Tudor were friends and traded chickens and dogs back and forth. Some guy wrote in the Pedigrees online that Toot was a four time winner. He only won two fights. I was around back then and know the truth. 

The Famous Don Maloney,dogfighter, famous breeder.
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He bred many a famous pitdog and got shot to death.

This is the late Don Maloney Don I speculate won more fights than he lost. Don was born April 10,1937 and was shot to death in December 1986. He had a girlfriend he was fooling with and like some men do. He neglected his wife. His wife who I still like and think she had just cause. Found her someone else. Don wanted his Kate and Edith to 'so to speak'. Don followed Claudia to her new found friends home and walked in with a gun and got killed for his trouble. It reminds me of the song. Play around you lose you wife, Play to long you lose your life. Goodtime Charleys back in town. Don left a wife and three kids behind because of all this. Earl Maloney named after Earl Tudor. When he was a young boy got his leg eat up bad. He walked up behind a dog. He'd hugged that dog a hundred times. He grabbed him around the neck when Don was carrying a dog to a pit in his yard. The excited dog whirled around and ruined Earl's leg. He has had numerous operations on it. I called Claudia in 2006 and Earl called me. They both seemed glad to hear from me. I consider Don's wife and kids good people. I think Claudia is with the man that shot Don and power to her, She needs a life and someone that treats her good.  I was out in eastern Oklahoma back in the early eighties at some matches. Don smarted off to me. I knocked him in the pit. he and I were down on the mat fighting and the dogs were fighting. Don tried to stab me. He had a knife in his hand someone stood on his hand and took out the knife and said their isn't going to be any of that here. Several guys lifted us out of the pit to the out side and we kept fighting. A guy walked up behind me with a big branch and was going to club me in the back of the head. Larry Warren stuck a gun in his face and told him to back off and he did. Jerry Johnston also kept some people out of it. The management told me to please let him up. So I did. All I had was some scratches on my face like fingernail had got me. They put him over on the other side of the pit way away from me. They had a building where they had snacks. I was hungry and wanted a beer after that excitment so I went to the snack bar. A  man from a state up north with an Italian name looked me in the eye. He said I have a dog to match and I will tie his hind legs together and fight at what ever you have. I was already mad so I told him. I'd kick his ass to and take his bullshit somewhere else. He did just that. Giving me an angry stare as he went. I hate idiots like that.

My friend Frank Carver left and me right.
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Frank was a good dogman back in the day. He is an old fart now and doesn't have any pitbulls.

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This is Alvin and myself.

Tudor bragged Alvin was the best in 40 years.
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This is Leigh my oldest daughter, Alvin and myself in the 1970's.

Back in the old days in the early 1970's. I fought my Alvin dog, known as 'Alivn the dog' at Alvin kephardt. I beat a brother to the famous Hank dog. A man came to me and told me he witnessed Kephardt rubbbing something out of a small jar on his dog. I fought him anyway (which wasn't smart). My Alvin dog managed to whip Kephardt's dog but dropped holds when biting in the area Kephardt had rubbed. Alvin's eyes looked real weird for a couple of days. What people do to try to win has no limits. His next fight was against Danny Burton. I beat his dog in two hours and twenty three minutes. Alvin was different from any dog I ever saw fight. When Alvins opponent got weak and Alvin knew he had him whipped. He would put his feet on the dog and use his feet and legs for leverage to pull peices of flesh loose and swallow the flesh. Earl Tudor said he knew Alvin would eat a dog after killing him. After this long fight with Danny Burton.  Alvin laid on his side in a special room I had fixed up for pitdogs looking death in the eye for twelve days after the fight. I fed him broth each day with a teaspoon. Trickling it down his throat until he would strangle. He was hooked to IV'S replacing his body fluids and was given antibiotics daily. He smelled like rotting flesh. I moved his limbs around daily. He would moan in pain. On the 12th day he stood up and was looking me in the eye wagging his tail. I said you ok boy. He just wagged that tail even harder. He recovered and lived several years after that but later died with cancer. Probably from the steroids I gave him.  I swore during those twelve days I'd never fight another dog. I ask myself what kind of man can do that to a dog. I ask Mayfield years ago. Did seeing them get hurt bother him. He said, only if they don't get well so they could fight them again. Alvin was so Popular that people from seveal countries flew to American and came to my home and tried to buy him and or his offsprings. I, not like many so called top dogmen. Refused to sell anything to anyone from another country. I have my policies and that was one of them. Laugh at me if you like. That is just me and my standards. I also refused to let Earl Tudor breed anything to Alvin and maybe I should have breed to him. He ask me several times. Like I've said before. I liked Earl but I didn't like Earl. I had mixed feeling about him. He just wasn't my kind of people.

Earl Tudor who was at pitside said Alvin was the best dog he had seen in 40 years and Danny Burton's dog was a good second. Cecil Pond who is a fine man refereed that fight. He said the same thing about Alvin that Earl Tudor said but added he had only seen one other fight that had pitdogs of that quality and he saw lots of fights. I was in my back yard playing with Alvin one day when my wife yelled for me to take the trash around to the side of the house before the trashmen came. She handed me a sack of trash. I opened the gate to the backyard and let Alvin go with me. As we got to the trash container a cat flew out of it and headed across the street. Alvin right on his heels. I chased them to a house with the garage door open across the street and down one house. The cat ran up the built in ladder that went to the attic and the door was gone to the attic so the cat was up in the attic. Alvins front half was in the attic as I grabbed him by one hind leg. I pulled him down to me. I subdued him in my arms and walked straight for my house not looking back. I could visualize people looking at me out of the window even though I kept my eyes forward. I thought about it later.What if he'd got into the attic and fell through the ceiling killing the cat as he fell to the living room. Boy would I have had lots of explaining to do. I was very lucky that it turned out the way it did.

A letter from Earl Tudor
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Above-This is hard to read but you can get the idea that he was asking to breed to Alvin.

Richard was born Feb. 21 1954
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Richard died July 1980.

This is my dear friend who was married to my cousin. The late Richard (Rick) Snow. Rick sometimes helped me work dogs and doctored dogs for me. His IQ was off the charts. He was going to Oklahoma State University to be a vet when he met his tragic death. My family and myself miss him. He has many grandchildren he didn't get to see or know and they didn't get to see or know him. He has a son I stay in touch with and have told him many stories about Rick and his life in the old days. 

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'Above' This is a friend and a good dogman who like them Colby dogs. Mr. Harry Mossberg. Harry was born in July 3,1896 and died August 1984. He was from Washington, Pennsylvania.

This is the famous Cecil Pond.
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Cecil was a top dogman an and honest dogman back in the day.

Hale's Oklahoma a game 2 hours twice 2 time winner
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Off Alvin & a curr sister to Tombstone called Bonnie.

Years ago Don Maloney put on some fights just outside Norman, Oklahoma. We got raided. It is sort of funny how Channel four was up front of the parade of cars driving up to bust us. I have a theory that their is more publicity for a lawman to catch a dogfighter than to catch criminals that rape and kill. I think that is because it is not the normal everyday thing you see on the television, like murder and rape. I would like to see the data on all the crimes committed against families that were neglected during of this raid. Don Maloney ,Homer Sams and a drunk were arrested. Maloney ask for a search warrent they told him to shut up or they would tape his mouth shut and put him in the trunk. They fingerprinted the rest of us and let us go. Don was charged with a felony. Yet after many months of hagling back and forth and many lawyer fees . The charges were dropped. I remember running with everyone and lots of them were worried about getting caught and their probation would be revoked. I was worried I might get one of those probations. Yet it all worked out good from most everyone. When they arrived I believe the way they acted. They knew who they wanted before they drove up. Years ago Homer Sams came to my house. He and I had an on going problem which I will not go into detail about. One night he knocked on the door. When I got to the door and stepped out with no shoes on and no shirt on. He ask me to come here a minute and I walked out toward his car.  He was very strong for an older man. He must had been in his late 40's a short barrel chested man. He took off his glasses as I walked toward him and set them on the car hood. I was around 20 years old. When he turned toward me I hit him but didn't catch him as solid as I needed to. He flew into me fighting in close hitting me one shot right after the other. I couldn't get right so I grabbed Him and had his head but he slide it upward and his ear drug past my mouth I grabbed it with my teeth. I shook him like a bulldog. He screamed in pain. He was walking backwards hitting me in the top of the head with something and got his feet tangled in some fencing in the front of my house and fell to the ground jerking his ear from my mouth. I saw it dangling as he hit the ground. I got on top of him and was hitting him and he was almost out from the punches. My wife came out of the house with a gun and 'said let him up'. She said, no one is going to fight here with my babies in the house. Homer said something smart to her and took one step toward her. She begged him to keep coming. He quickly caught on that she wasn't bluffing and got in his car and slung gravel as he left. I let her settle down A little and then decided to ask her why did you do that I was just starting to win. She told me. This is a good time for you to shut up. So like a smart man should do. I shut up. Like Larry Warren once told me.Their is nothing meaner or tougher than a mad woman. I called Frank Carver. He was a friend of mine in Enid,Oklahoma and lived close to me. He was a medic in the military when he was younger. He checked over the top of my head and said it looked like I had been hit with a church key or a pointed ring. I had little holes all in the top of my head. He put them on there when I was eating up that ear. Frank doctored each cut with alcohol then grinned and said he thought I'd live and left for home. Who said bulldog people are normal.

Years ago Don Maloney sent word to me he wanted a little bitch I called Hempee to give to Earl Tudor. Earl hadn't had a dog for a while and wanted her. So I gladly sent her to Don to give to Earl. Hempee was off Toot and the last bitch Hemphill had. Shortly there after I get word that Roland Fotenot had her. Well I found out later the deal was a scam just to beat me out of her, so Don could make some money. I will say it didn't pay me to feel sorry for old Earl and try to be nice to him because that left me vulnerable.  Hempee was a badly cowhocked little bitch. Roland called her Crip. I had a couple of Hemphill dogs Wilder gave me and they quit. A boy who lived by Wilder and help him check his dogs said all them he tested quit. The boy was a real nice young man. James Kelley and I really like him. We heard later that he killed hisself. He worked at a dairy close to Wilder. Don't make me or any dogfighter your hero. We were law breakers when we fought dogs and lawbreakers can't be trusted. If you dance you will have to pay the fiddler or maybe if you do the crime you will do the time fits this situation.  Please don't fight dogs this day and time or you may have to leave your children for years.

Back in the 60's I had a black bitch I thought quiet a bit of. She had been rolled hard and showed good. I called her Misty. Jimmy Job brought over a bitch he got from Forsythe. He wanted to test her. My bitch grabbed her and seem to be handling her. All of a sudden she turned and wouldn't take holt. I said lets see if my bitch will go. She stood in the corner and wouldn't go. All this happened in about 5 minutes. I was going to shoot her. Jobe had seen her go before and she seemed tough and real game. She didn't act a thing like she did with Jobes bitch. Jobe said don't shoot her give her to me.  I'll give her another try. I don't give dogs another try. So I gave Misty to him. Later he traded Misty to Jim Williams for anther dog. Misty ended up in some southern state winning four fights and some she won some with extreme gameness. How do I explain this. Well here goes. I have come home from work in the past and my wife acts meaner than a snake. Which isn't her true temperament. I can walk in the door being guilty of nothing and still face her rath on rare occasions. I believe female dogs like women have a misadjustment of hormones and this can happen without warning. When this does happen the female dogs aren't the same dog or a woman isn't the same woman so to speak. Misty just got rolled one of these times when her hormones were out of adjustment and she became a currdog for a few days. Has anyone else had this happen?